 and things like that making that key point just that it's going to be in the
 international market like Australia America things like that okay what are
 your experiences with remote controls I mean I've got we got we had three videos
 a TV and sort of amp thing all set up so we got one of the universal remote
 controls and the program each of your things into but that kept losing the
 signals so we'd have to reprogram it every now and again I think it was quite
 cheapy as well yeah but that was quite good the fact that you could use all the
 ones didn't have six remote controls you want to integrate everything into one
 like yeah my experience has only been being given the remote control with the
 object I buy not doing any tampering with it and programming using it to program
 TV or videos and things but basically on off volume up and down channel one to that
 that basic function I don't think I could go any further with it
 than that so I suppose it's got to be something usable by someone like me as
 well yeah the main that's the main stuff anyway I mean and you don't want to I
 hate I hate looking at a control and seeing a million tiny little buttons with
 tiny little words saying what they all do and just sitting there searching for the
 tally text button and symbols that you don't necessarily understand symbols you're meant
 to understand that you don't when they're when you've got the main things on the front of it and a
 section opens up or something to the other functions when you can do sound or
 yeah recording things like that inside it because it doesn't make when you pick it up
 it doesn't make it really complicated to look at obvious what you're doing
 actually that just raises a point I wonder what our design people think but you know
 on a mobile phone you can press the key and it gives you a menu it's got a menu display I wonder if
 incorporating that into the design of a remote control might be useful so you've got a little LCD display I was thinking on the same lines you instead of having too many buttons and make it complicated
 for the user maybe have an LCD display or something like that like a mobile with
 menus and with menus yeah and if it's somewhat similar to what you have a mobile
 phone people might find it easier to browse and navigate also yeah what about the
 older generation what about granny and granddad's my granddad can answer his
 mobile phone but he couldn't even dream of texting or something like that can he
 program his remote control or is he basic with that too I don't think they tape things
 my granddad's actually better than me using teletext so
 right so that's the problem regardless of any design modifications you you come up with yeah that's
 going to be a problem anyway with the older generation perhaps and that's another issue how we tackle that
 well it just needs to be as long as it's sort of self-intuitive and you can work out why everything's doing
 because I mean menus on sort of new phones now they've sort of got all these pictures and stuff which makes it fairly obvious what you're trying to do
 i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't like the you know the new phones that kind of got a windows based
 oh yeah running system
 i find it really confusing i kept getting lost in the phone i have not got a new one but my friend got a new one
 and i was trying to do things with it and i just kept getting lost but that's just me yeah i don't i don't know how for 25 or 12 euros 50 how much of an excellent screen you could get you'd have to sort of keep it down to a black and white lcd thing anywhere
 is it possible that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books obviously it displays less on the screen it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing
 yeah or what about kind of a dual function in that you've got the basic buttons just for your play volume program things and also and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures obvious symbols and that's where you control recording and things like that
 the other thing is just tucking into mobile phone design features again could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top
 your screen is you can have a bigger screen and the flip over i think that's a cost thing
 i don't know how much we're going to know about it it might save a bit of space instead of looking bulky it might look small yeah but it might have cost implications and there's
