and things like that No um making that a key point just that it's going to be in the international market like Mm Australia America things like that Okay What are your experiences with remote controls I mean I've got we got um we had three videos a T_V_ and a sort of amp thing all Mm-hmm set up Yeah so we got one of the universal remote controls Alright Yeah Yeah um that c that you programme each of your things into but that kept losing the signals so we'd have to re-programme it every now and again I think it was quite a cheapie as well Mm-hmm Yeah so uh that might have had something to do with it but that was quite good the fact that you could Use all the ones You didn't at the same have time six remote controls sitting Right in front of you Okay you wanna integrate everything into one like Yeah Mm-hmm Okay 'cause My you experience has only been being given the remote control with the object I buy not doing any tampering with it and programming using it to programme T_V_ and uh uh videos and things But basically on off volume up and down channel one two th that basic functions Mm I don't think I could go any further with it than that so I suppose it's got to be something usable by someone like me as well Yeah the main that's the main stuff anyway Mm-hmm I mean and you don't want to I hate I hate looking at a control and seeing a million tiny little buttons with tiny little words Mm saying what they all do and just Yeah sitting there searching for the teletext Mm button or And something symbols like that that you don't necessarily Yeah understand symbols you're meant to understand that you don't So simplification Um of symbols you could think When of they're when you've got the main things on the front of it and a section opens up or something to the other functions where you can do sound or options Oh yeah kind of recording things like that inside it Mm-hmm 'Cause it doesn't make when you pick it up it doesn't make it really complicated to Mm look at it's obvious Mm-hmm what Mm you're doing um Actually that just raises a point I wonder what our design people think but you know on a mobile phone Mm-hmm you can press a key and it gives you a menu it's Menu got a menu alright display I wonder if incorporating that into the design of a remote control might be useful Yeah so you've got a little Uh L_C_D_ uh display Right I was thinking on the same lines you instead of having too many b buttons and make it complicated for the user may h maybe have an L_C_D_ di display or something like that like a mobile With menus yeah and with yeah menus yeah And if it's s somewhat similar to what you have on mobile phone people might find it easier to browse and navigate also Yeah maybe What about the older generation What about granny and grandads Um You mean to save it lesser my grandad number can answer his mobile phone but Yeah he couldn't even dream Mm-hmm of texting or something Mm-hmm like that Can he programme his remote control or is it basic Right with that too I don't think they tape things Yeah I Right don't think my they grandad's use actually better than me at using teletext so Right So that's a problem regardless of of any design modifications you you come up with Yeah that's gonna be a problem anyway with the older generation Mm yeah perhaps the and age that's another gap issue Yeah how we tackle that what it just needs to be as long as it's sort of self-intuitive and you can can work out what everything's doing 'cause I mean menus on sort of new phones now they've sort of got all these pictures and stuff which makes it fairly obvious what you're trying to do Mm Mm-hmm I don't But know I I d don't know how I don't like the you know the new phones that have kind of got a Windows-based Oh yeah running system Mm-hmm I find it really confusing I kept getting lost in the phone I di I've not got a new one but uh my Right friend got a new one and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost but that's just me Yeah I don't I don't know how for twenty fi or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get Yeah you'd you'd have to sort of keep Mm-hmm it down to a black and white L_C_D_ thing anyway Is I'd it possible assume that that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books Okay Obviously Teletext it displays has got that less option on as the well screen it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing Yeah Or what about kind of a dual function In that you've got the basic buttons just for your play volume programme things Mm-hmm and also and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures obvious symbols and Yeah that's where you control Mm-hmm recording and things like that Mm The other thing is just ch chucking into mobile phone f design features again it could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top your screen is you can have a bigger screen in Mm-hmm the Mm okay the flip over I think S that's a cost thing Y I don't It I Yeah might don't know how much we're gonna know about it might save a b bit of space it's i instead Mm-hmm of looking bulky it might look Yes small no Yeah that's important Yeah But it might have like its smaller cost implications Okay And there's no
